//p2p/BlueScreen-v.n.a.t.r.c?/:

BlueScreen (6:40 PM) : And well good evening vnatrc, they and Strassenbach, v.n.a.t.r.c.? (6:40 PM) : They, Otto von Strassenbach, thank you. v.n.a.t.r.c.? (6:41 PM) : & v.n.a.t.r.c.? thank you BlueScreen (6:40 PM) : And well good evening vnatrc, they and Strassenbach, v.n.a.t.r.c.? (6:40 PM) : Sheÿ, Otto von Strassenbach, thank you. v.n.a.t.r.c.? (6:41 PM) : & v.n.a.t.r.c.? thank you BlueScreen (6:41 PM) : ok, & ok, of nothing v.n.a.t.r.c.? (6:41 PM) : Sheÿ wait v.n.a.t.r.c.? (6:41 PM) : await you BlueScreen (6:42 PM) : (await us) v.n.a.t.r.c.? (6:42 PM) : of firm foot v.n.a.t.r.c.? (6:42 PM) : & the oeils Net BlueScreen (6:42 PM) : well let us start with a true question, why I invited you to take part in this project? v.n.a.t.r.c.? (6:42 PM) : because drank you too much the last week end; Sheÿ are witness, d'ailleurs BlueScreen (6:43 PM) : ok, let us say that that can be an answer (even if it were an act completely premeditated before drinking) v.n.a.t.r.c.? (6:44 PM) : Sheÿ knew it already, because Sheÿ rise early v.n.a.t.r.c.? (6:45 PM) : alow BlueScreen (6:45 PM) : let us remain on the subject of this project and its unfolding, I proposed before you to shulgin, which refused because it did not have there remuneration, in there reflective, that seems to me rather relevant and revealing of something... an opinion? v.n.a.t.r.c.? (6:47 PM) : well, it could have seemed to us relevant to answer in the same way, that being, it appeared to us "prégnant" to involve itself in p2p (in addition we are for the copyleft: that not compared to remuneration or not, but compared to p2p, name of the project obviously inspired of the peer to peer) v.n.a.t.r.c.? (6:47 PM) : Sheÿ like as well of course to collapse under the "tunes" [note : money / fr. slang] v.n.a.t.r.c.? (6:49 PM) : and that Sheÿ are precisely remunerated for their relevance artistales BlueScreen (6:50 PM) : yes well on, I work myself with copyleft, and accepted this project of good heart, I wonder right if that does not raise questions, more generally, on what it is currently done on the Net... the considerable increase in call to creation not remunerated, what, it seems to me, not only would be a kind of nonrespect of the work which is required (I do not speak about this project or it is a weak investment) but especially a reduction in the quality of the projects on line... many usually answers these calls to creation right to make circulate their name by producing relatively weak projects... a risk to lead there to a kind of weakening of the productions on the network is not this step? BlueScreen (6:51 PM) : (I speak well about call to creation, and not as it is the case here, to present existing projects) BlueScreen (6:52 PM) : ... idea that art Net, it is only small tricks without ambition... v.n.a.t.r.c.? (6:53 PM) : that seems normal to Sheÿ, this tendency, with the direction or it quasi totality of the economic sectors require (English : demand) more and more a kind of drudgery at mercy... it depends on us to work until and including in projects not remunerated by but with global quality. question of dignity, but not only... art Net, like bakery or the cutlery, or the diplomacy, they are not only small tricks without ambition. that not. v.n.a.t.r.c.? (6:54 PM) : for the calls to creation, as with residence, it is true that it is often enough pauper; when it is about an artist calling with participation, like navas for p2p, yes, if it were of Whitney or the mjc [mjc : house of youth & culture some sort of a french institution ;-) ] of Nevers, not. v.n.a.t.r.c.? (6:55 PM) : Sheÿ refused besides to occur with the festival of potato, in Eysines, with Carlos Dolto, then... BlueScreen (6:56 PM) : there are nevertheless not badly of call to creation (amongst other things proposed by artists), for pseudos "expos" on line, which did not collect that small tricks make with goes quickly, in 3 clicks, and who are more comparable (if comparison it y' a) with sketches of study, that has paintings... the idea for the recipient of what creation can propose on the network is also conveyed by that... not? v.n.a.t.r.c.? (6:59 PM) : admittedly, and the time [short deadlines] often reinforces this impression; true creation is done without preliminary request, proposal, and with or without money. the artist is often one * nutcase * working with tricks of *ouf* [crazy in french reverse slang : verlan] without one asking him nothing, just because it wants it. BlueScreen (7:00 PM) : yes I am completely of your opinion BlueScreen (7:00 PM) : you a few moments ago evoked the obvious relationship with the p2p, qq thing with saying there above? v.n.a.t.r.c.? (7:04 PM) : as any work deserves wages, the relation between the artist and his public is often a complicated alchemy, according to times', its solution more or less elegant, is more or less circumvented, in this moment, we are at a point criticizes... eh well, p2p, peer to peer, exchange of files or data between users who choose themselves without constraint, that corresponds at the same time to the nature of the networks, and the current situation of the use (abuse? to do a little history) copyright by the diffusers, etc. piece to piece, the navas project, seems to Sheÿ under this angle a relevant act of a co-opted community artists offering a project which discusses this file BlueScreen (7:06 PM) : ok, and the relationship with the Spam, the chain by mall to be sent to all its address book? (and viruses which uses methods even without the agreement of the people implied d’ailleurs) v.n.a.t.r.c.? (7:08 PM) : let us specify: if Sheÿ included/understood well, the project piece to piece create a gathering site of the projects of artists who gathered as in a network p2p, but moreover the result publishes by offering it to all; without counting the interview, texts, like this one: with final it should be nutritive, not a project at the small week; the artist, here, does respect his public? BlueScreen (7:09 PM) : yes well on, not I do not criticize the project at all, I speak about the way in which it evolves/moves, you choose two people, and invites them to make the same, this mode of evolution (exponential), seems to me more in connection with those of the chains by mall or the viruses (it is not pejorative, far from there), BlueScreen (7:10 PM) : ... that with the p2p v.n.a.t.r.c.? (7:14 PM) : for the question of the Spam, Sheÿ have an altruistic point of view, because according to their charter on spam.vnatrc.net, it is especially painful to note that too many people are sad and alone! It is easier to put a Spam at the dustbin than not to never again have at the head a dreadful jingle advertising, which incline them to think that the Spam is a less evil, compared with the stroboscope televisual, just small against time, able to unchain (éxagéremment Sheÿ think it) of the brigades of nétiqueteurs zélés and perfectly insoluble in humour. non-respect of the freedom of others seem to Sheÿ not as threatened as that in the virtual world, a little time for deleter all that, a small distress when the subject of a message is "your account rebs;, H" or "enlarge your penis", but, that is better than to catch the scarlet fever, not? v.n.a.t.r.c.? (7:16 PM) : for the orientation of the project, of course null criticism neither at home, nor at Sheÿ. Sheÿ thought of peer2peer with the name of the part, piece2piece. report/ratio with the Spam, chains, etc. yes, certainly, somewhat, but the matter is then promised with public diffusion, from where a kind of then public exchange, then, a kind of Spam peer to peer? BlueScreen (7:17 PM) : yes well on... the Spam does not impose to you (against bludgeoning TV or radio) the awareness of its contents... it is only one loss (spoliation) of time, but when it is arrived when even like me to 80 spam/jour, not obvious (without adequate tools) to find our messages there inside.... BlueScreen (7:18 PM) : yes I see more that in the continuation of the rhizome and the diffusion Net that in the pear to pear (which is, as we do it there, a direct connection between 2 users known network) BlueScreen (7:19 PM) : good if not have qq thing to say itself on the project which you will present? v.n.a.t.r.c.? (7:19 PM) : ach, the adequate tools... selective virtual napalm does not exist yet... to destroy 11000 spams of a blow: gross dream! Sheÿ are marries, but just for the principle, their plastic terrorism of ironic and puerile form though nouménalement blunt, always uses materials not degrading; BlueScreen (7:21 PM) : I still don’t have understood nothing yet? Is it serious? v.n.a.t.r.c.? (7:24 PM) : v.n.a.t.r.c.? proposes YA*T: Yet Another * Tool the prototype is YAST 2.7 cf yast.vnatrc.net/ Yet Another Sizing Tool: software of Web art creating with flown of the random interfaces, images, texts, urls, form, checkboxes, all the htmlized ustensils of the Web, posted with flown in an unceasingly refreshed and always random, hazardous provision (script Python in an Zope jewelcase, one of the main ingredients of the receipt), always new, N seconds out of N seconds: the same thing is never seen: information is handled without intention, ingenuously, a real treat of perplexed propaganda! one of the objects of the collection is YAAAT: Yet Another ASCII Art Tool BlueScreen (7:25 PM) : hold, veiled a subject! I am in war with the random one since qq time... what can you say to me on his account? v.n.a.t.r.c.? (7:26 PM) : this one, YAAAT, will be like the epigraph, the leading fashion top model of the collection, introduced in navasse.net/p2p/ http://yaaat.vnatrc.net/ v.n.a.t.r.c.? (7:27 PM) : ach, Sheÿ knew it, war with the random one, considering your site? BlueScreen (7:28 PM) : yes, but still, the random one? what? how? or? why? and then? but? thus? in short? BlueScreen (7:28 PM) : forgotten it how? BlueScreen (7:29 PM) : (but that tt the world know it, thanks to this function random devil) v.n.a.t.r.c.? (7:31 PM) : for the random one, why war? all depends, seems to Sheÿ, of the use that one makes some, knowledge especially the context, the intention, the situation. it is uninteresting to balance the random one like that, for nothing... it can become interesting to use of the random tool to practise differently joining, interrogation, apostrophe, astonishment (the astonishment, mother until of philosophy: that is! why?), and to redistribute the cards, the phonêmes, the articulations, the irrigations, the relations, the sense? v.n.a.t.r.c.? (7:34 PM) : it is wholesale one within the competences of our work, since v.n.a.t.r.c.? who wants to say: have you still nothing understood yet [this the only authorized translation of v.n.a.t.r.c. ? by biEsz] ? (here Sheÿ beseech all to be alive: not to forget it "?", please!) and since "anachronism & alienation" and also "perplexed propaganda": at the astonished one, Sheÿ answer: take the word "propaganda", take the "perplexed" word: shock them: then? BlueScreen (7:35 PM) : mmm... yes for the random one for the random one! but when random interferes in personal production (which emanates from choice, I would say "toire" (without the risk not authorized), that would not amount it not relegating to others (the machine, programmers of the function random) of the choices which would have precisely nourished creation? there are so many unverifiable data to re-use on the network, which while causing the perplexed one and the going beyond of the obsession of control, carry in them a direction which is clean for them... I think that often the use of random while avoiding putting certain questions, excluded the catch from induced or unconscious direction of the production... v.n.a.t.r.c.? (7:38 PM) : another induced aspect/effet of the random one: Sheÿ are very sensitive to the "viewable by any browser", with the effort of maximum visibility, "compliant"; it is that their YA*T are laid out better by IE (horresco referrens!) that by Mozilla (light problem of mask, seems it ‘à vue de nez’.) it is for that that Sheÿ do not say optimized "for" but not optimized "by" IE ?, fuck IE nevertheless and lives Mozilla BlueScreen (7:38 PM) : to answer your question: "why war", because it is while trying to interdire qq thing which one weighs what it really represents... BlueScreen (7:40 PM) : I inevitably do not see the relationship between your last answer and the random one... (but it east cannot be not very important) (moreover I hold qq share [keep on wanting] in NeToujoursRienComprende?) BlueScreen (7:40 PM) : that made exactly an hour that we started this maintains, we do not go from this fact can be not too much to be long in buckling it BlueScreen (7:41 PM) : qq thing to be added? v.n.a.t.r.c.? (7:44 PM) : Sheÿ will reinsist if you wishes it, the design of the YA*T, and their correlation with Perplexed Propaganda, if expensive with their step: The nonintentional informational magma, it is pipo [bullshit : french slang], Sheÿ however ensure you of their true good faith in the interactivity which this first generation of YA*T recommends, but Sheÿ do not want to induce you in error, then, Sheÿ are explained their interest for the random one in the pneuma-tire, the breathing of this above-mentioned magma. The YA*T are belly informational to nourish, which produce their own interpretation of the information injected in, they approach a design rather amusing of the artificial intelligence, which in this meaning, appears without much difficulty in front of the amazed eyes of the Net surfers, accustomed to the order and progress! v.n.a.t.r.c.? (7:45 PM) : there is also, Sheÿ has just said it, the regardor! Sheÿ cherish the regardor! BlueScreen (7:47 PM) : for my part, I do not like that the regardor has to look at... I substituted it as a potential recipient... it is a denomination which under does not hear a statut/de prédéfinit role, he is only one potential recipient of what it will be possibly brought to perceive... v.n.a.t.r.c.? (7:47 PM) : quote:""pourquoi war ", because it is while trying to interdir qq thing which one weighs what it really represents... " ah, not, that it is the asceticism, not the war; but here is precisely a watchword which would be interesting for the artists, and their contemporaries: MAKE the ASCESE, NOT The WAR! v.n.a.t.r.c.? (7:49 PM) : for their part, Sheÿ do not like that the regardor has to look at... Sheÿ substituted it as a potential recipient... it is a denomination which under does not hear a statut/de pre-defined role, he is only one potential recipient of what it will be possibly brought to perceive... the potentially intended regardor is a rare pearl: Sheÿ repeat it: Sheÿ cherish it! BlueScreen (7:50 PM) : yes you are right completely... but the ascese places me in situation of opposition (of war interns) with the temptation of random... v.n.a.t.r.c.? (7:51 PM) : "the destruction of our culture is a matter of tact", do not forget it. BlueScreen (7:51 PM) : it with beautiful potential being, it looks at... that badly does not leave a direction with unemployment tt that... (I prefer tt Mrs. to listen to the conf vnatrc in digitalized voices to look at the small pocket of it) v.n.a.t.r.c.? (7:52 PM) : to look at is an unemployment? not, it is not that. BlueScreen (7:52 PM) : not, the regardor, while placing himself like such, puts at the layoff of another direction such hearing by ex... v.n.a.t.r.c.? (7:57 PM) : layoff of the senses does not make sense the regardor: it is synecdoque, my friend! BlueScreen (7:57 PM) : yes it may be, but that is not in my eyes synecdoque of the most pleasant my expensive friends BlueScreen (7:58 PM) : good coming one at the end (and yes I am hungry), then what with saying on that there (end, of course not his/her sister) BlueScreen (7:58 PM) : ? v.n.a.t.r.c.? (7:59 PM) : Sheÿ are close BlueScreen (7:59 PM) : Sheÿ are thus several v.n.a.t.r.c.? (8:00 PM) : Sheÿ wanted finally to pass to table, but good, so much worse... BlueScreen (8:00 PM) : ... a single beginning for several ends? is a reproduction dialoguized? v.n.a.t.r.c.? (8:00 PM) : Sheÿ are when to quantify, or kantifier, hay! let us not badinons! BlueScreen (8:00 PM) : yes it is time to pass finally there v.n.a.t.r.c.? (8:01 PM) : a single reproduction of a plural dialogue is what puts an end with univocity... BlueScreen (8:02 PM) : not, let us not badisons, dinons, you will notice in the passing (which carries out on the exit, or the entry of the dinner, tt depends on the point of view) which I did not speak about you, that with you, it’s all that makes the difference, that I hope for that you appreciate... BlueScreen (8:03 PM) : good on this good apétit, v.n.a.t.r.c.? (8:04 PM) : It is nice, Sheÿ t'en know liking [no : t’en savent gré in french : intraduisible !] ~;:)) &un ¨W;7[) Guten appetit (das schmekt sehr gut!) BlueScreen (8:04 PM) : shus v.n.a.t.r.c.? (8:04 PM) : the word of the end: Hypersavants already surely started to study the means of shaking remotely, without wire and trace, by radio-controlled electric shocks, the temples of the most solid heads, to always take remotely, without wire and trace, of "films" of the thinkers remained intact. Being given what one knows of the current world, it may not be that one does not work already some share on planet to develop hyperscientific machines which one always flatters oneself that they could be directed, without wire and trace, according to very rigorous co-ordinates', on the brains remained inentamés at the time of the preceding attempts. F5? relocates?